# In a New Episode of Podcast with Nayla In a new episode of Podcast with Nayla, the dialogue conducted by Nayla Tueni with Lebanese artist and sculptor Bassam Kyrillos seemed like a journey into the memory of the Lebanese war—not from a political perspective, but from a human one; from the angle of pain that transforms with difficulty into art, and from destruction that may give birth to beauty, even after a long period of suffering. **Art as a Means of Understanding Life** From the first moments of the dialogue, it was clear that Bassam Kyrillos does not treat art as a decoration for life, but as a means of understanding it. The man, who spent years transforming demolished buildings, iron, and concrete into sculptures, sees that life itself is based on contradiction: between pain and beauty, between destruction and hope, and between falling and attempting to rise again.